On a short 8 weeks course in Oils, to see how I like :)

Oil number one tried to treat it like watercolour a no no.
Oil 2 I just plowed in painting a still life, putting paint directly on the canvas and painting with fingers.
This is number 3 been on the go at home using the same image as the wip (reversed)
that way only need to think about the paint taking a more considered approach.



The water Soluble Oils attract as they will mix with any other water based paint.
Giving great scope for experiment.
The only medium needed is the Water soluble linseed Oil.

Have found a little Acrylic flow improver in the water very useful.

May stick with this but its so slow this way... and so far away from being finished.

This is interesting to see, although from the same reference the atmospheres are so different.

Now I am more out of my depth than normal as I am not familiar with portraits or now with your medium :D do keep us updated as to how your experiment with w/s oils goes.

Ruth

It's lovely painting, BUT imo I think the lady would look better with 4 knuckles and fingers rather than 3.

This is an interesting comparison with your watercolours.

The same exploratory approach and the Quillion style is evident, but this oil portrait doesn't have the same ethereal quality of the watercolours. That's not a crit, just an observation.

Every part of this painting is positive with less ambiguity than the w/c

There seems to be a more considered approach to colour balance and composition, too.

As far as working with oils and acrylics go, I know very little. But I like what I see in this picture - so far.

Thanks for your observations Ruth.
Thank you Julia a good point well worth considering.
The considering is probably my biggest problem Timber.
I would think eight years + ? has given you a good knowledge in Oils to share :)

I think many people would enjoy Modern Oils, and a 3 colour practice with a few springtime flowers could go into the Springtime competition. (grins)

Are you trying to use water with the paint Quil, as that is not recommended unlike acrylics where you can dilute them the same method does not work with oils, I know it's a job trying to get the brain around using thick globs of paint after watercolour, but go for it.

Ken Gillam
www.wiz.to/art

I think as much as up to 30% of water may be used...tricky bit is how do you judge it when painting quickly. :unsure:
I can't say I have had any problems but you paint in a different style to me.
I do like the jacket thssupp and look forward to seeing the finished work.
Phoenix :)

This is very interesting Quills, and has been said your individual style shows through ;)

So different from your watercolours Quills and yet you can still tell it was painted by you. Its always a joy to view your work. (grins)

Hi Ken & Phoenix.

Using Holbein Water Soluble Oils. No water in the paint.
Only one special mediums, Holbein W/S Linseed Oil I have never needed that.

Unlimited amounts of water can be used, Water speeds drying time.
Or may be used as normal Oils with usual mediums.

Can be mixed with traditional Oils/Mediums up to 30% traditional oil or paint to remain water soluble.
Can be mixed with Watercolour Gouche Acrylic etc. this is of interest to me :)

All colours have same drying time unaffected by cold temperatures..

Short short term drying time faster, Same long term drying time 6months to a year.

Not meant to sound like a sales pitch. :)

I did a fair bit of homework before buying.
Many other makes need special mediums and are more water mixable not soluble.

(claphands) (thumbs) (claphands) This is brilliant quilion, I like the way you're into experimenting with all sorts of meduims and techniques. I do agree with Timber though, this is not as vibrant or alive as your watercolours. Thanks for the tips too, will come in useful for me some time! (loveh) Sylvia

I can only say I am all ears and eyes ....
jim

Thank you, Quills for the details on the medium and its use. That is very useful to have for future reference (claphands)

Ruth

Very difficult to judge online

Good information but do the paintings need a varnish to bring out some sparkle.

Very interesting thread thssupp

Neil

On a slightly related topic has anyone used the new Interactive Acrylics, they are supposed to work more like oils.

Ken Gillam
www.wiz.to/art

Remembering I only have 3 painting and 3 weeks experience. :)

The first one dried matte. Appears fully dry a wet water rag water rubbed across the surface has no effect.

The second just over 2 weeks old, the background worked with wet fingers has dried matte.
The thicker neat paint with peaks of 2-3 mm is now touch dry to a rubbery consistency. The whole painting was done in one go, presume the underneath water must have helped the drying.

The third ( above ) a little water used is Matte.

As they are exactly the same as normal Oils once your added water has worked,
normal 8 months to a Year Oil rules and varnish times apply.